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What I need to know to be a Django full stack developer?
Luis Zárate
2015-09-04 13:29:44 UTC
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Hello everyone,

I am looking for a remote job in the web, and in various sites are looking
for Django full stack developer. I know several libraries and programs
related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full stack
developer?
I want to learn the tecnologies that I unknow, because I really want to
have well background in Django and derivates.

So my question is

What I need to know to be a Django full stack developer?
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2015-09-04 13:54:18 UTC
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Full stack implies that you are competent working on the front end
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extent). You don't necessarily have to be an amazing designer to consider
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Post by Luis Zárate
Hello everyone,
I am looking for a remote job in the web, and in various sites are looking
for Django full stack developer. I know several libraries and programs
related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full stack
developer?
I want to learn the tecnologies that I unknow, because I really want to
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So my question is
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Post by Bill Blanchard
Full stack implies that you are competent working on the front end
(HTML/CSS/Javascript), back end (Django/Python), and database (to a lesser
extent). You don't necessarily have to be an amazing designer to consider
yourself "full stack", but you need to be able to do basic front end
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Post by Luis Zárate
Hello everyone,
I am looking for a remote job in the web, and in various sites are
looking for Django full stack developer. I know several libraries and
programs related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full
stack developer?
I want to learn the tecnologies that I unknow, because I really want to
have well background in Django and derivates.
So my question is
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Luis Zárate
2015-09-04 14:30:39 UTC
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Really only that, I thing this is Django basics.

I was thinking in more complex stack, like DRF, haystack, gunicorn,
services integration (like Google, Amazon, PayPal) and other fancy tools.

So thanks you
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Full stack implies that you are competent working on the front end
(HTML/CSS/Javascript), back end (Django/Python), and database (to a lesser
extent). You don't necessarily have to be an amazing designer to consider
yourself "full stack", but you need to be able to do basic front end
layouts and some javascript work.
Post by Arindam sarkar
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Post by Luis Zárate
Hello everyone,
I am looking for a remote job in the web, and in various sites are
looking for Django full stack developer. I know several libraries and
programs related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full
stack developer?
Post by Arindam sarkar
Post by Bill Blanchard
Post by Luis Zárate
I want to learn the tecnologies that I unknow, because I really want to
have well background in Django and derivates.
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Post by Bill Blanchard
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So my question is
What I need to know to be a Django full stack developer?
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For the devopsy things you mention, the second best way to learn that is to
spin up a $5 VPS and work through tutorials like
how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-14-04
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Post by Luis Zárate
Really only that, I thing this is Django basics.
I was thinking in more complex stack, like DRF, haystack, gunicorn,
services integration (like Google, Amazon, PayPal) and other fancy tools.
So thanks you
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2.Django
3.html
4.css
5.js
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Post by Bill Blanchard
Full stack implies that you are competent working on the front end
(HTML/CSS/Javascript), back end (Django/Python), and database (to a lesser
extent). You don't necessarily have to be an amazing designer to consider
yourself "full stack", but you need to be able to do basic front end
layouts and some javascript work.
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Hello everyone,
I am looking for a remote job in the web, and in various sites are
looking for Django full stack developer. I know several libraries and
programs related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full
stack developer?
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I want to learn the tecnologies that I unknow, because I really want
to have well background in Django and derivates.
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So my question is
What I need to know to be a Django full stack developer?
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Luis Zárate
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Hi,

I know some of those things right now, I am developing académica (
https://academica.solvosoft.com o https://github.com/luisza/academica) that
is deployed with supervisor, nginx, gunicorn and mysql.

I don't know why I was thinking that a Django full stack developer was a
Django hacker o guru that know a lot of things related with Django, but now
I am disappointed about this term.
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to spin up a $5 VPS and work through tutorials like
how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-14-04
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Really only that, I thing this is Django basics.
I was thinking in more complex stack, like DRF, haystack, gunicorn,
services integration (like Google, Amazon, PayPal) and other fancy tools.
So thanks you
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programs related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full
stack developer?
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I don't know why I was thinking that a Django full stack developer
was a Django hacker o guru that know a lot of things related with
Django, but now I am disappointed about this term.
The stack is the layers between the hardware and the end user. For
a web developer, those layers look something like


[Hardware]
[Operating System]
[Server software (web server, database, caching, LDAP, …)]
[Server-side application software]
[HTTP]
[Browser]
[Browser-side content layer: HTML]
[Browser-side presentation layer: CSS]
[Browser-side software: JavaScript/AJAX]

Usually a "full-stack developer" (FSD) sets the endpoints of their
expertise within that range and will include where the bulk of their
expertise is. My "full stack" (FS) range starts with OS-level skills,
is strongest at the server-side application level, and extends to the
HTML/CSS/JS end, but the JS is certainly my weakest skill in that
chain. Other devs I know start some weak/functional skills at the
server-side application layer, but are front-end masters.


Most people don't consider the hardware layer part of the
qualifications for being a FSD.

It's assumed you're comfortable with your target OS. That might be
Windows, Mac, Linux, or BSD. If you have server administration
skills on your deployment platform, all the better. If not, since
it's on the edge, it doesn't stop you from claiming FSD as a title.

Once you get to the server software, it's expected that a FSD knows
the basics of getting things up and running as well as doing basic
configuration and trouble-shooting, but some folks might need a
sysadmin to wrangle the stickier points. I've seen folks claim FSD
status without experience with server software and it always sounds
suspect to me ("you call yourself a FSD, but you've never configured
a web server or created a database before?") You might not be able
to tune the web/database server for massive load but you should at
least be able to get it deployed and functional.

Every FSD should have experience writing back-end code. Usually
this is a combination of a language and a framework. On this list,
it's Python/Django, but it could also be Ruby/Rails, PHP/Cake, or
whatever. This is where the bulk of my expertise & coding-time is.
At a minimum, a FSD should understand the framework and be able to
make reasonable tweaks without completely breaking things, even if
it's not their main area of expertise. E.g. "Oh, the business logic
is using an OR here when it should use an AND «fix»"

Knowing HTTP helps a lot when debugging communications that go out
over the wire. I've worked with devs that were confused by behavior,
but had they understood things like GET-vs-PUT/POST/DELETE, response
codes, and cache-control headers, certain solutions would have been
easily solved.

Most FSDs don't actually work coding up browsers too. I suppose you
could, but mostly we assume that the developers of Firefox/Chrome/IE
know what they're doing.

Once you're on the client side, a FSD is expected to know HTML.
Semantic markup, basic nesting rules, entity escaping, etc. The
basics are pretty simple. This is pretty essential material for
all FSDs.

With that skeletal HTML, a FSD should know some basic CSS to layer
atop that to make things look nice(r). A FSD with server-side
expertise may a general understanding, while front-end focused FSDs
should have a solid CSS mastery.

Similarly, with some well-constructed HTML and some good-looking CSS,
adding a little JavaScript can improve the user-experience. I tend
to avoid JS as much as possible as I know it's not always available
(I fly with NoScript; there are more concerns about accessibility of
you start tinkering with JS; and it's not my strong skill). AJAX is
just a subset of knowing JS.


So that's the stack, and a FSD will have a sweet-spot of expertise,
with functional experience in the neighboring layers extending at
least down to the server-side application layer, and a bit past the
HTML layer.

Additionally, there are other meta issues like version control
(git, mercurial, subversion, etc), bug tracking, and use of a good
text editor, where I'd expect a FSD to at least be comfortable with
the basics.

-tkc
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2015-09-04 15:11:30 UTC
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what I need to know to be a full stack developer?
1. Python
2. Django
3. html
At this point, you should have a working dev-server up and running

3.3 Apache/nginx/gunicorn/etc (web server configuration)

At this point, you have a mostly useless app on the web

3.6 SQL/database management

At this point you can have something functional and actually store
data.
Post by Arindam sarkar
4. css
Now you can make it pretty

4.5 HTTP

Now you know how to diagnose issues
Post by Arindam sarkar
5. js
Now you can improve the user experience by dynamically responding to
things.
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6. ajax
This is really just a subset of knowing JS combined with knowing
HTTP.

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Leco leco
2015-09-06 07:32:02 UTC
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You need this

http://www.fullstackpython.com/web-frameworks.html
Post by Luis Zárate
Hello everyone,
I am looking for a remote job in the web, and in various sites are looking
for Django full stack developer. I know several libraries and programs
related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full stack
developer?
I want to learn the tecnologies that I unknow, because I really want to
have well background in Django and derivates.
So my question is
What I need to know to be a Django full stack developer?
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Luis Zárate
2015-09-06 17:05:49 UTC
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This is a good reference, thank you and thank you all that answer me.

I understand well what is DFS and I will read this guide.
Post by Leco leco
You need this
http://www.fullstackpython.com/web-frameworks.html
Post by Luis Zárate
Hello everyone,
I am looking for a remote job in the web, and in various sites are
looking for Django full stack developer. I know several libraries and
programs related with Django so I ask me what I need to know to be a full
stack developer?
Post by Leco leco
Post by Luis Zárate
I want to learn the tecnologies that I unknow, because I really want to
have well background in Django and derivates.
Post by Leco leco
Post by Luis Zárate
So my question is
What I need to know to be a Django full stack developer?
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